Nigel first went to San Quentin as a volunteer teaching photography. In November 2018, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne's sentence after 21 years of . And they won't get that opportunity to present the person that they are today. California Gov. Vice President . Im thinking about my mama, shes 70. Like, what was all this for? GROSS: OK, so that was a little more than five years ago that Tyler was killed. My first prison term, I went to jail when I was 17. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. So you become accustomed to that lifestyle. You start attending different self-help groups. This piece has been updated with news of Woods hiring onto the podcast team. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Earlonne became preoccupied with reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who had previously been incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. For Walter "Earlonne" Woods, the path to freedom was podcasting. Nigel, I want to play an excerpt of an episode that you were very prominent in. But to hear the very next day that he was killed - and my mother is who told me. It was like a light switch. You guys are killing me (laughter). We're able to share food. But you look back, and you're looking at it like, I've wasted, like - I can say right now, I'm 47 years old. And I believe, personally, that that will ease overcrowding because there are a lot of people in prison that deserve to be out. So, Nigel, when you decided you wanted to start, like, a interview series that started on KALW - the public - one of the public radio stations in San Francisco, and then it became a podcast - you wanted a co-host and co-producer who was incarcerated in San Quentin. We know because they did a whole episode on getting parole. So I'm going to enjoy. And when it actually happened, it was a - it was an awakening in me, like, oh, I don't - why is we living this way, you know? [14] In an interview with Rolling Stone, Poor said the show is "about everyday life inside a prison. E WOODS: So I'll give you example. My guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of Ear Hustle, a podcast featuring their interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. SHAPIRO: Earlonne Woods is 47. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who were previously incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. It was so kick-back and cool, meaning I take advantage of all these moments now. But of course when someone's in prison and the other person's not, there's so many things you can't do. POOR: There's something I have to talk to you about. And he understood how to diffuse a situation. GROSS: I want to thank you both so much. And it would give the people inside the opportunity to stretch themselves intellectually and emotionally, so just creating more of a connection. We will update you once we have more information about Earlonnes marital status. [13], The term "ear hustle" is prison slang for eavesdropping. I don't know. One is that you're going to get killed, and the other is that you'll eventually go to jail. Can I ask how your relationship is changing now that you're both outside? Her latest novel "The Friend" won the National Book Award for fiction and is about to be published in paperback. I pretty much raised Tyler from '95 to '97, when I got arrested. And as time went on, as years went on, I stuck to my guns. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. No, and I laugh because had Governor Brown probably not been the governor, I would still have 10 years of my sentence left. Woods, 47, was recently released from San Quentin State Prison after California Gov. His first book, OG Told Me, is a memoir-style collection of essays about Harshaw's. And my mindset, regardless of where I'm at, I'm going to live to the best of my ability. They're waiting to get inside a club, and somebody from way across the street just shoot into the crowd, hit him in the heart, right? And I hit the floor. And I was paroled when I was 23, about to turn 24. Part of HuffPost News. Kourtney Kellar is an American model, social media celebrity, influencer, media face, and Internet personality. There's a man that I worked with for quite a while that I was very fond of. Earlonne stands at a height of 5 ft 7 in ( Approx1.7 m). He and Nigel are also the authors of This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life, a book that became inspired by the podcast and released by Crown/Random House. Kourtney Kellar models for a variety of periodicals, companies, Toni Storm is a famous New Zealand-Australian wrestler, social media influencer, Instagram personality, OnlyFans star, and entrepreneur from Auckland, New Zealand. And the assumption is that what you did at that moment is what you are today even though it's five years, 10 years, 20, 30 years later. It instead offers the even more illuminating dialogue of individual prisoners. Jerry Brown. Like, he just seemed lighter and shiny and fresh. "When. So I think I understand more the complexity and the pressures and inside I get to see men relating in very heartfelt ways. And I want to play what he said to you. You have to wear the same clothes all the time. Mentally, it do, you know? GROSS: That Tyler was killed while they were in prison. I love it. And you start thinking differently, you know? We don't really do stories about people's crimes at all. I went in and ended up in a security housing unit a couple of times for lengthy stays and just continued my pretty much destructive behavior all the way out. In fact, when I walk through the yard, one of the things I really like is that people make eye contact. Poor, a professor of photography at CSU Sacramento, was volunteering with the Prison University Project at San Quentin State Prison when she met Woods, who was serving a 31-year-to-life sentence. So I think what kept me sane is that I had the philosophy where, I am going to live to the best of my ability every day that I have left on this Earth no matter where I'm at. You were OK with that? Despite the lack of physical or forensic evidence, Caramad Conley was convicted of conspiracy to commit first degree murder, two counts of first degree murder, and eleven counts of attempted I don't know if it's a lake. ERIN: Oh, [expletive]. In 1997, he was sentenced to 31-years-to-life in prison. As of now, he works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at www.npr.org for further information. Jerry Brown is releasing Woods from San Quentin State Prison after two decades behind bars. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California Three . Poor is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. No, people get up to a thousand years to life for something that they've done in their past. And he was always ready to help. The rest of it is just an enhancement. It's like - I think they're not under the constraints or the pressures to not accept people. He was sentenced to 31 years to life for attempted robbery in 1999. And y'all having these intimate conversations about, you know, why you went down this path or what it was like being a survivor, what it was like being this. POOR: So I'm just going to be very blunt with you. In 2020, Ear Hustle was named a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize in audio reporting the first time the . Yes, he was quiet, but he was always present. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . TYRA WOODSON: And he began acting out. Before creating the podcast, Woods and Poor did interviews with inmates in San Quentin for public radio station KALW in San Francisco. I'm on a podcast. GROSS: And - so you interviewed him about commuting your sentence. So we do stories about life inside prison. Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle. Nigel Poor assures us the podcast will continue with Earlonne contributing stories from the outside. And they shot at Tyler, like, 40-something times. I've never felt scared or disrespected. It's a job. I'm not doing this. So to hear Governor Brown say that, it was like this is how we actually think. Who is Kourtney Kellar? Earlonnes net worth is estimated to be $657,586. ERIN: I don't - I don't know. GROSS: Nigel, when you first started volunteering in San Quentin, what were some of the things you had to deal with as a woman teaching in a prison of men? And so (laughter) it was just incredible. It was other people telling, you know, their stories about being robbed or losing a child, losing a loved one. We called up Nigel Poor today to ask her about it, and she said that when they got the news yesterday, they were in the middle of making an episode. China. I mean, I try to be, like, open and honest about my past and the things that I've done, including what I've done to get to prison. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. He was born and brought up in the United States to his caring and supportive parents. Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. And I got out in '95. Woods said he was only trying to be helpful, but was arrested by local sheriffs who did not question why he had lifted the gate; Woods subsequently had to appear in juvenile court. GROSS: To stay sane in a situation like that. I was going to Nigel's house the other day, and I was an hour early. I hope you'll join us. And at one point, he revealed to me that he had raped quite a few women. Earlonne is a brother to Shala Woods. His net worth is estimated to be $657,586. GROSS: A job because you thought it was, like, your only source of income? E WOODS: So I think that goes into, like, what they call politics in prison and where, you know, you may have certain prisons that it matters what you're in prison for like - and it's a difference on a race level. Earlonne is of white ethnicity and American nationality. We'll be right back. Earlonne was both co-host and inmate. I enjoy every second of every day. They had left the auntie's house. You know what I mean? He's also co-host of the podcast "Ear Hustle," which is why we had him on this program. "[6], Multiple reviewers noted how funny the show can be, despite often dealing with serious topics, and how uncommon it is to find humor in media taking place in real life prison settings. Elevated Entertainment LLC; Host: Hard in the Paint w/Aaron Showtime Taylor. [1][10] As of Season 4, Woods continues to make the podcast from outside prison, while Rahsaan "New York" Thomas was announced as a new co-host for recordings done inside San Quentin. He says, I need to speak with you. Brown cited Woods' leadership in . Earlonne was not only one of the co-hosts, he was one of the men incarcerated until his release in late November after California Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence. GROSS: And you basically just described your own situation when you were incarcerated because you got 31 to life for attempted second-degree robbery. [7] Woods relocated to Oakland, California after his release, and was hired full-time as a producer and co-host of Ear Hustle. He's been behind bars for more than 20 years. Namcy Wong. And this time, they had something for me, which was the three-strike law. Earlonne Woods is an American podcaster and author, best known for co-hosting and co-founding the podcast Ear Hustle in 2017, and co-authoring the book This Is Ear Hustle in 2021. The authoritative record of NPRs programming is the audio record. Los Angeles, CA. I'm fine working with him now. You know, he was - you know, I even - I'm talking to him all the time. GROSS: Earlonne, what's the custom among men in San Quentin? Is he a good co-host? GROSS: So this gets back to something you were just saying. And that surprised me greatly. And, Earlonne, again, I want to thank - I want to congratulate you again for your new freedom. Woods and Poor cohost the show while Williams does the show's sound design, working in San Quentin's media lab to record music and effects, including foley work. I'm not doing that. And they open fired on him. Even after Woods is out on parole in Oakland, California, Ear Hustle said that it will continue, with Poor telling more tales from those inside San Quentin and Woods talking about the journey to re-enter society after years behind bars. . Tyler was sent to live with extended family. "[16] Quah contrasts standard prison narratives told entirely from an outsider's point of view with the interplay of insider and outsider perspectives provided by the hosts of Ear Hustle, with stories primarily told through Woods' and Williams' words and perspectives, and Poor in an active role adding "key narrative housekeeping". My guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-creators of Ear Hustle, a podcast featuring their interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. I think my mother told me she loved Jesus more than she loved me. Nigel is a professor of photography at California State University in Sacramento. [5] Woods role on the podcast was well-received, with Sarah Larson from The New Yorker describing him as an "immediately warm and likable presence",[10] while Eddie Harana from Rolling Stone praised the sense of humor he brought to the show. And then, I always say that, you know, a lot of people that volunteer - people like Nigel Poor, people like other volunteers that volunteer inside of prisons - are on the frontline of public safety because these are the people that's coming in and is trying to show you a different way of life or trying to help you understand differently, think differently. Earlonne Woods was born and raised in South Central Los Angeles. Along with Nigel Poor, he is a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX. WOODSON: They told me that my son was murdered - well, killed. And a chase pursued. Therefore, Earlonne has accumulated a decent fortune over the years. In some ways, like, I find it hard to understand that somebody, like, wouldn't have any empathy for the victim and wouldn't care. ARI. E WOODS: Well, me growing up the way I grew up, I grew up in a lifestyle where I was young when I got into selling drugs, and I was - I was real young. Earlonne resides in the United States. And I'm playing this because it's about knowing where the line is when you're interviewing prisoners and sometimes to have to ask something that's going to make them uncomfortable. Earlonnes sentence was recently commuted, but the two proceed to tell stories of life behind bars. [16], Alfred I. duPontColumbia University Award, "Immigrants facing deportation, drug offenders and a former state lawmaker receive pardons from Gov. GROSS: And you thanked him for doing it. POOR: We can taste each other's food 'cause, you know, in prison you can't share food with people. Don't be out there doing no robberies, none of that stuff. I actually oddly enjoy being in there. "Ear Hustle" the phrase is slang for eavesdropping is a collaboration between Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both prisoners at San Quentin, and Nigel Poor, a Bay Area visual artist who teaches photography classes at the prison. There's all these restrictions. But we knew that, you know, it's traditional for the governor to do these commutations right before Thanksgiving. The podcast team announced Tuesday that it will hire Woods as an employee on the show. So what - one of the things that I've really taken away from being in prison is that I've gotten an incredible glimpse into what it means to be a man and what men deal with. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. [8][9] Poor is a visual artist in the San Francisco Bay area who volunteers at the prison. That, in a nutshell, is the juxtaposition that defines Ear Hustle. EARLONNE WOODS: Well, I just keep getting up every morning, you know, thankful that I have another day, thankful that I'm alive, you know? And when you're in that moment, I think it's more of crime to people in society that commit crime. [7] Co-creators Woods and Antwan Williams were inmates at San Quentin State Prison for the first three seasons of the show. What was your reaction when you found out? Woods' sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to tell stories of life. I don't know. This is what we work for because there comes a moment in every person in prison's life where the light switch go on. I told him that constantly. He likes to keep his personal life private hence Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his marital status. I'd rather not know. So I've technically only been free 20 years in my life, and, since I was 17, I've been free maybe three years all together. And it's all that some of the people that you choose to associate with do, you know? Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. SHAPIRO: Well, yesterday, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence. GROSS: Who - give us an example of somebody who you spoke to who had been a victim of a crime similar to the one that you committed that made you feel this, you know, sense of feeling bad for what you'd done. I have all the different people that I talk to as I work my way down to the media lab. He had just became a paramedic or something. Redmond O'Neal is a voice actor, Hollywood celebrity, and Star Kid from the United States. You end thinking, like, here's this guy who's very self-actualized. Earlonne Woods is co-creator, co-producer and co-host of Ear Hustle from Radiotopia. And her son had attended a party. I'm Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. And the captain comes in. Shes holding on. So it be at prison, I'm going to enjoy my day every day because at the end of the day, this is all I got, you know? And I always wore black. And then I got into the lifestyle of robbing drug dealers. [9][7] Ear Hustle was the first podcast entirely recorded and produced inside a prison. He is a man of average stature. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. I get to see how they express love and tenderness and fear and frustration and how they posture and what's behind that. Earlonne was an inmate as well as a host. Since the podcasts launch in 2017, its been downloaded millions of times, featured in media outlets from NPR to The New York Times, and made several best of podcast rankings. GROSS: That's the sound of the San Quentin prison door slamming as my guest Earlonne Woods was released in late November after being incarcerated there for seven years. POOR: So one of the things is that I really believe that people change. POOR: I know. POOR: I'm so glad you asked about this. And so to me, that meant he was a very good observer. Ive been taking showers for like 20 years.. So now we just have the opportunity to travel together, to do something like this together. Not at all. I just stopped over there, went and sat on a rock and just watched the water for about an hour. It's about a writer whose friend and former mentor kills himself. What keeps your hopes up? And the thing that I noticed in particular about him was that whenever there was an issue going on - and, of course, inside prison, there's all kinds of issues - and if we would have to sit down to solve a problem, Earlonne was the one who would speak up, cut through all of the baloney and get to the point. OK. - like, was with him pretty much every day. The sound was recorded because he's the co-host and co-producer of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with San Quentin inmates talking about daily life there, things like living with a cellmate in a tiny cell, what it's like to be in solitary confinement, the heartbreak of being a parent separated from your child, how everything inside is separated by race and so on. And to hear - to take that in and to not be afraid and to not judge a person but to, like, sit with it and think about it and think about this was 30 years ago, like I just - I had to do a lot of work around that. And E WOODS: And of course I enjoy all the little moments. And we used to do, like, healing circles. Earlonne Woods prefers to keep his personal life private, so he has not disclosed any information about his marital status. And so we just started talking, and I realized that he was interested in thinking about how we could do interviews from more of an artistic perspective and not as journalists. And when I went in the second time, my friend Furman Little (ph) was killed the night we were arrested. And it's the way people would hope other people think that, hey, OK, I've done my time. No. He received a sentence of 31-years-to-life. And the phone rang in the media lab. GROSS: If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-creators of the podcast Ear Hustle. They struck him 19 times, killing him. Then there are those marriages that become the subjects of books . When Earlonne was incarcerated in San Quentin, he and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle. Why am I doing this? But then someone will research you and be like, did they just feed me a bunch of bull [expletive]. Earlonne Woods is the cocreator, coproducer, and cohost of the Pulitzer-nominated podcast Ear Hustle. And, you know, I pretty much raised - because my brother was locked up. And it really wasn't until I got into the healing circle that I understood what it was like to be a survivor of crime because in these circles, you're sitting across from crime victims. You know, he calls me. The podcast title, Ear Hustle, is prison slang for eavesdropping or being nosy. And that was one of the things that I appreciated about Jerry Brown - especially everything he said in that clip that you played is the way people inside think. And Earlonne just had his sentence commuted by Governor Jerry Brown in November after serving 21 years. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. And at the end of November, Governor Jerry Brown commuted his sentence. So sometimes it's important, and I can give you an example. POOR: Well, I would like to see more programs created that allow people inside and outside to work together as colleagues. And they - and I received 31 years to life. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. All rights reserved. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). Woods helped create Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. Your nephew, his son, Tyler, was born in 1994. E WOODS: Yeah, so that's cool. I mean, I guess I had a kind of low estimation of men and what they were like. So now we can actually do that and even POOR: Hopefully go to other countries, too. Bernard Antwi Boasiako, Lana Wolf, Eric Marcus, Robert Marawa, Who is Redmond ONeal? Ear Hustle was the first podcast to be created entirely inside a prison. GROSS: And, Earlonne, I look forward to your interviews with people who, like you, are transitioning back into society from prison. It's something. It didn't work out, unfortunately. If you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin Prison about their daily lives and their personal stories. So I was nervous at first to go in because, I mean, my head was full of all the images that, you know, of - from bad TV, bad movies, bad media about what prison was going to be like. POOR: OK. In 2018, California governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence, citing Ear Hustle as a significant contributor to his reformation as an American citizen. His commutation includes reference to Earlonne's work on the podcast. You may be a changed individual, all the way changed, would never commit another crime. [3][4] In 1997, at the age of 25, he was arrested for attempted second degree robbery. After 21 years in prison, Governor Brown the great governor of California decided that I served enough time, Woods said in the latest episode of Ear Hustle. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator with Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. GROSS: Well, why don't we take a short break here, and then we'll talk some more? In 1997, he was sentenced to 31-years-to-life in prison. And it was very hard for that to not change the way I felt about him. They grow up literally., In Browns letter announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime., He has set a positive example, Brown wrote. This is FRESH AIR. [1][2] Since his release, Woods has continued to co-host the podcast with Poor from outside prison, with Poor recording some parts in San Quentin with new co-host Rahsaan "New York" Thomas. I'm not doing this. POOR: I don't ask unless it comes up as part of the story. "Ear Hustle" features stories from prison told by prisoners - their intimate, honest conversations about family visits, cellmates, solitary confinement - conversations like this one between Earlonne Woods and his co-host Nigel Poor, who's not an inmate. It was like 2 in the morning. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. It's - it's - I think being in a position to step away from it all and look back and say, man, I was on something else. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR, and if you're just joining us, my guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . Copyright 2019 NPR. Woods' sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to tell stories of life behind bars. And the officer came back, was like, you're too tall for that name. It was transformational symposiums. 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