Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site. He was the only survivor of the slayings, and the attacks marred his life forever. And I'm not saying he isn't funny and entertaining. poor lighting and NO SIDEWALKS. I'm not trying to be mean to the guy but he really does come off as somewhat crazy. 'Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark' Spoilers That Will Keep You up at Night, The Dysfunctional Roy Family in Succession Might've Been Inspired by These Real Families, Netflix's 'Resident Evil' Show Has Survival Horror Fans Seriously Excited. I think he was scared out of his wits. >>>Lynyrd said: The douche actually sought compensation for his unknown loss of earnings?? A Conversation with Johnny Ussery- The Then 7 year old son of Clyda Dulaney! He died on August 16, 2016. Here's where I'm headed---what if Garretson was tired of the clock radio and wanted him out the door. That was in the newspaper but I think it was incorrect. William married Elizabeth Jane (Betsy) Garretson (born Hartin). I said in the previous 'debunking' post that I believe that the noise made by Steve Parent backing into the fence could have been enough to startle Tex and bring him out of the bushes with the gun.Is there a transcript available of the police statement by the person Steve Parent phoned while up at Cielo? Your new password must contain one or more uppercase and lowercase letters, and one or more numbers or special characters. So it's as much of a mystery as ever. notation by Steven Shannen, the. He also committed perjury Roberts Evans of Paramount is a creep and knows moreRoman Polanski is a creep and he knows moreTerry Melcher committed perjury with Bugliosi and Evelle Younger's behestGregg Jakobson committed perjury with Bugliosi and Evelle Younger's behestGay man & straw owner Rudy Altobelli committed perjury with Bugliosi and Evelle Younger's behestThe inescapable conclusion is that a highly trained and organized team of 3-6 MEN armed with bayonets and other weapons murdered these seven people. Thank you for fulfilling this photo request. He said he was not advised of his right to remain silent until several hours after his arrest. hahahaTalk about an opportunist of the highest order.I have no idea what the outcome of that claim was>>>That claim was nada. Or at least he would've hidden in the bathroom or a closet with a knife & fallen asleep there.But wasn't he asleep on the couch, all out in the open?Just doesn't make sense to me.I know they said that sounds traveled funny in the canyon area, but the guesthouse was on the same level as the main house, past the pool, not more than 50 feet away. But I can't help but ask I created this video with the YouTube Slideshow Creator (http://www.youtube.com/upload)William Garretson, age 19, was the house sitter for the guest cottage . The following morning he was discovered in the guest house and quickly arrested on charges of suspicion of murder. We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. findings, however, did not absolutely preclude the fact that Garretson did not Interesting post Matt. And if they had William saw and/heard what was happening that night. Homicide cops knew this guy without any blood or cuts couldt chase and stab all these people unless he was Speedy Gonzalez.Once they calmed him down and background checked him and found out he was John Holmes brother from Ohio they figured he was Italian tubesteak for Altobeli.Anyway by day 3 the good cop was getting rare witness survivor testimony of an even rarer ritualistic,possibly drug (MDA)related multiple murder.As far as I can tell the cops treated him with kid gloves.The cops were worried BG might be murdered by this same group if he told the press what he knew and saw.I was in Los Angeles from the Boston area from Jan-June 1969.I was 20 and couldn't believe how many hitchhikers there were.I bought a 1957 Century from my landlord not realizing the Ca.tags tranferred with the vehicle I had taken my Maine tags,plus didnt require insurance like Ca.did.I myself bummed rides.Like most witnesses to an unknown perp murder.BG was told that he didnt hear or see anything.Thats why his lawyer did all the TV interview.When I started work in the Plymouth Co DA Office I LEAA funded the first county wide Victim-Witness Prog.I personally used Induction-Hypnosis on violent crime vics & witnesses with great results in 1975-78.Defense attornies complained I was manufacturing evidence.I didnt think so;so many clients could recall to witness and document traumatic crime details.Crime scene forensics was a bit sloppy at the Tate house.BTW the Buntline 22 using Std velocity ammo MAY BE somewhat suppressed due to the 18" ? time, there's not much he can do to prove it unless he can get a confession memorial page for William Floyd Garretson (19 Mar 1889-15 Mar 1972), Find a Grave Memorial ID 31128731, citing Grace Cemetery, Genito, Powhatan County . He lived in a town where things change slowly and everyone knows everybody's business. William Garretson (1949-2016) IMDbPro Starmeter See rank William Garretson was born on 24 August 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA. Try again later. >>>Lynyrd said: SeriouslyI still can't get over that:Roman Polanski and Colonel Tate, would rather roll-around in Sharon's blood with mops and sponges, than come-up with a few bucks for a new carpet? The LA detective said: NO!5) How come by 11:45pm hadn't hairdresser Jay Sebring (real name: John Kummer) return home to his larger, more comfortable house---it's less than one kilometer away at 9820 Easton Drive. HA HA. Excellent comments all.Both the 10050 Cielo Drive murders and 3301 Waverly Drive murders have so many unasked questions, as well as 'unknown, unclear, incorrect, implausible, or ambiguous' asked and answered questions.just a few Lt. Columbo questions re: motives or intentions:1) what time did Abigail Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, Sharon and Jay Sebring return from their mexican dinner at El Coyote? Per the district atty at the time of the investigation, a persons initial testimony is usually the most accurate. Editor's note: This story first appeared in the Eagle-Gazette on Aug. 9, 2009. interview at face value, for the purpose of discussion.I also didn't know Garretson was on a possible drug/alcohol "bender" those nights. It was probably that he was trying to keep back from LAPD.Sorry don't know how he made a living prior to that. might do on their initial visits? A six minute drive by car. The story put out had been that CM and RA only encountered each other briefly when CM made enquiries about Melcher's whereabouts. His net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. He also said he was treated well while in custody, so it's not surprising it didn't go forward, but he was clearly damaged in the legal sense and treated badly when he was identified to the press as a five-time murderer. Ceilo was a zoo. He hadn't mowed it in 2 months. Police spared Garretson a sight even more horrible inside the house. While Charles Manson was commissioning the LaBianca murders to cover his tracks, it also led police to rule William out as a suspect, as the LaBianca murders occurred while he was in custody. mission and after seeing steven parent shot could not go in the house,linda was the only 1 who had a valid drivers license , is the way the interviewer made it sound ? 1966-173. residual drug effect and in part over his evasive answers to certain questions. Remember how Altobelli reacted by suing Sharon's estate for cleaning services. All photos appear on this tab and here you can update the sort order of photos on memorials you manage. mind that you don't want to disclose?". He wanted Roman to replace to carpet, even after Roman scrubbed it and Col Tate got on his hands and knees and scrubbed it. He passed away in 2016 after a battle with cancer, two years before Charles Manson would meet his demise in prison. William passed away of cause of death on month day 1838, at age 56 at death place, Arkansas. this isn't really about anyone caring if Garretson and Parent fooled around Burdick, the officer questioning Garretson even notes this during the exam. The key impact of both crimes is that Conspiracy to Commit Murder and Felony Murder do not require the defendant to actually kill anyone or even be present when someone is murdered to be guilty of murder. He was a lucky bystander that had nothing to do with any of this. Garretson wound up suing the city for false arrest, false imprisonment, invasion of privacy and violation of his Constitutional rights. LMAO Vincent Bugliosi stalked his milkman, Herbert Weisel, kidnapped Herb's son from kindergarten, assigned two Los Angeles County detectives to surveil Herbert and made crank telephone calls to his wife. He may have lied at the trial. Which memorial do you think is a duplicate of William Garretson (199860689)? based on information from your browser. It was very interesting to listen to that Internet radio interview. He passed the polygraph given to him on August 10th. Are you sure that you want to delete this photo? So, she goes back to the main house. Sharon was being monitored daily by Robert Evans, President of Paramount Pictures. To add a flower, click the Leave a Flower button. Reputations and careers were at stake. Later Bugliosi paid his former milkman $15,000 in $100 bills. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. document.write(part3 + ''); Pick up? He also worked part time at night for Jonas Miller Stereo, 8719 Wilshire Boulevard. I support Parent also picked up Garretson hitch hiking and Im sure he was gay and he probably came to the house the night of the murder to see if he might score with Garretson. Afraid of what? He woke up in the house, when the police arrived.My version is really not that far-fetched. something is on your mind: Later, on page 70 Burdick tells Garretson, "I want you to You don't just meet someone once and then make them the caretaker of what was very expensive real estate. Beyond a doubt.He was the reason for the Garretson thing.Anyway, he sued Roman for the cleanup of the "blood stains" on the carpet.Can you even imagine??? We will review the memorials and decide if they should be merged. He probably quickly figured out no, and he left. 6) was Rosemary LaBiance selling drugs?7) was Charles Watson given intelligence as to the time and date of drug deliveries to 10050 Cielo Drive? We know for a fact that Altobelli was gay and this seems to me like a gay pick up if ever there was one. Seems to me Monday would be the day for housekeepers.4) Were Cocaine or LSD, or amphetamines or Ecstasy found by first responders on Sunday morning? He had to get on his hands and knees and scrub it.Of course they never got it out.But they tried.And Rudy sued Roman. interview he did & watch it. Rudy Altobelli was living in the guest house when Charlie dropped by. Police arrested William at the point of a shotgun and grilled him for hours. On the 50th anniversary of the murders, many remember him as the only survivor, but also as, ultimately, the ninth victim of Charles Manson. Learn How rich is He in this year and how He spends money? You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. When he heard the lock turn, he might have thought he was coming back to get him as well. Em 1995, foi eleito o Melhor jogador do mundo pela FIFA, e recebeu a Bola de Ouro sendo o nico africano a . Back in Lancaster, residents were just learning about the murders in California -- and the local man who was being questioned for them. It was just too good for him not to Use Escape keyboard button or the Close button to close the carousel. I should like to offer you my sincere sympathy over what has been a very difficult personal time for you. I am 67 so I am a contemporary who traveled west from New England to Frisco in Feb 1968 to witness my cousin at San Mateo State get busted by the post office his employer for smuggling high grade grass from Vietnam to SF. This comment has been removed by the author. It turned out the firecrackers were gunshots. And William F. "Willie" Maier, 86, Altoona, passed away Saturday at UPMC Altoona. Perhaps, WG was scared of him and was dreading him returning to view the carnage at the property WG was supposed to be looking after. Tex ? The media was fed a script to repeat for 51 years from December 5, 1969 to the present. All rights reserved. WG wasn't under the residual effects of a narcotic when he was being polygraphed. ). var part3 = "GW at Mansonblog dot com"; As a gay man myself, I can tell you for certain that Rudi was indeed playing on my team. No one cares anymore.Now Matt, when are you going to tell Julie about US? I know there is some doubt about the veracity of his youthful sodomy episode. LOLOLTalk about a tight-wad.Buy a carpet for cripes sakes!SeriouslyI still can't get over that:Roman Polanski and Colonel Tate, would rather roll-around in Sharon's blood with mops and sponges, than come-up with a few bucks for a new carpet? Steve was super young. I am going to use deductive reasoning here as well as Lieutenant Columbo logic: Motive, means and opportunity 101.Charlie Manson was NOT present at the time of the murders. none-the-wiser? According to our Database, He has no children. Sunday? Pot was $8-$12 oz.Sorry to see BG pass on. the question that I'm sure they've asked many, many times over the years: Why But they did it. for longer than 48 hours on probable cause. Michael Hlouek-NagleHi Michael,It is generally accepted that Manson is bisexual - at least that was documented in the Rolling Stone magazine interview of recent years. There is a problem with your email/password. All along, Bugliosi claimed his relationship with Cardwell was strictly lawyer-client.John Dalton drinks too much CIA Jonestown Flavor Aid. Police tried to hold onto him for as long as possible as they had absolutely no other leads and he was the only person found alive on the premises. Andhow the hell does Garretson end up at the house on Cielo to begin with? Place of Burial: Warrington, York, Pennsylvania. Your Resource for the Tate-LaBianca (TLB) MurdersYesterday :: Today :: Tomorrow :: Where No Sense Makes Sense. It was ugly anyway before the murders. Billy drove a grocery store delivery truck for many years. (And it's so nice to have someone else here on GMT rather than Pacific - I usually check-in shortly after waking up only to realise that everyone else has just gone to bed.). Oops, some error occurred while uploading your photo(s). Police, the claim said, "failed to preserve the claimant's persona and civil rights by exposing him to unwarranted notorious and undesirable publicity." Sgt. comfortable enough to drive through the gate that Friday night? someone refuses to take a polygraph, like O.J. Please try again later. crimes. All photos uploaded successfully, click on the Done button to see the photos in the gallery. This for the most part did not extend to homosexual relationships (experimentation) among young men who self-identified as "regular men". The guest house was not that far away from the main house. LOLOLThat's bordering-on demented. And NOT AT 10050 Cielo Drive address.Neither Roman Polanski nor Sharon had spend much time at 10050 Cielo Drive as they traveled, worked, or were in France or England during 1968. It has just occurred to me, doesn't Schreck assert in his book that Charlie and Altobelli were intimate? I do feel that at the very least Krenwinkel must've known he was there since Tex sent her to check the guest house. and he said, 'shut up, I'll show you,' " Garretson recalls. :^). document.write(part3 + ''); Well Margery. You can always change this later in your Account settings. It might be interesting to check if this is consistent, or a ploy for the examiner.Back to the evaluation of casual sex in LA, in the late 60s. December 13, 1792 (75) Warrington, York County, Pennsylvania, United States. I don't know if it's 2 months AFTER the killings, or 2 months BEFORE the killings, which would make Roman a deadbeat as well. Close this window, and upload the photo(s) again. Anyone can jump to conclusions, including you. He died on August 16, 2016. Pat goes to the guest house and hears music,checks the door and its locked. ?The guy was a "caretaker" for cripes sakes. Who would be able to describe the Rambler to the police ? She was only just introduced into the Spahn Ranch and Charles Manson residing in Canoga Park five miles away btw. William Garretson was born on August 24, 1949 in Lancaster, Ohio, USA. Are you sure that you want to report this flower to administrators as offensive or abusive? The Last of the Manson Girls, Sharon Tate-The Biography Sharon Tate Book 2011, The Manson File- Myth and Reality of an Outlaw Shaman, Vanity Fair April 2011 interview w/Charlie in Spanish. Garretson has since been interviewed for documentaries on the murder that have aired on The History Channel and E! Entertainment News. The 'report' would vary in loudness.I have a 1938 Winchester 67A with a 27"heavy bull barrel.When I fire a short std velocity 22 with muzzle velocity @ 1000' sec its like a loud handclap.They stopped making this model after JFK was killed in 1963.These guns dont have serial #'s and only the early 1937-41 have the long heavy barrels that absorb the report. Garretson could sleep through a blowjob. On the morning of Aug. 9, 1969, a housekeeper discovered five bodies scattered around the Los Angeles estate. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. On the morning after the murders, he was arrested on charges of suspicion of murder, but was subsequently released.When questioned, Garretson told police he had heard nothing outside at the time of the murders, because he had been listening to music; a police spot-check found this plausible, as recounted in Helter Skelter.However, in a 1990s E! 0 cemeteries found in Baltimore, Fairfield County, Ohio, USA. I used soft drugs like cannabis.I'd speculate that this was the norm, and if Garretson essentially admitted to having sex with another man, this is a significant revelation about his lifestyle at that time. Thanks for all your great and helpful research Katie!If I was AltobelliI think I'd be a little pissed to learn Roman was mugging for a photo-shoot a day or two later, to the tune of $50,000 as well.I'd probably want my house repaired as well if Roman was being that cavalier about the whole situation. Manson Blog Proves the Updated Manson File is Fiction! William was not the brightest tool in the shed and after living in L.A for 20 yrs, I can attest to how easy it is for even the straightest of men to become "flexible" Bi-sexual or gay-for-the-right money. On the other hand, Paul Watkins claims in his book that he gave Charlie head, as well as what went down during their group sessions. He had another secret family too. His 1999 interview I believe he has done so many drugs over the years his brain is probably somewhat fried and he probably was under pressure to make his tv appearance shocking. document.write(''); Remove advertising from a memorial by sponsoring it for just $5. are some excerpts from the polygraph and Garretson's responses on the polygraph Was Garretson also living at Cielo at that time, perhaps cohabiting with Altobelli? An attorney was appointed for Garretson, and filed the suit on his behalf. Hi Everyone:Bob received his copy of "The Family".I'll post the first thread next week sometime, to give him a chance to read it.No rush Wow KatieSlow down, I got a couple questions.1) Was the ruling on Garretson's claim really zero?Is that just your opinion?OR you know for sure?2)You said, "Atobelli was the reason for the Garretson thing".Are you saying that Garretson was Rudy's "personal gay cabin boy"? It doesn't look too smart if five dead bodies are found on the property you're supposed to be taking care of.A lot of the problem with this case was the wholly inadequate police work. She reads that he cleaned up the blood.I really don't know why they didn't just get it replaced. (As it turned out, the sounds were of Charles "Tex" Watson shooting Parent with a pistol.) Your account has been locked for 30 minutes due to too many failed sign in attempts. Heard that from the Col.Don't know if that's true.Don't know what that has to do with it.But I do think that a 19 year old guy, that just had a visit from a "friend to sell a radio" and had no knowledge of the crimes, would be in some kind of shock.Now a 19 year old that wasn't using drugs, wasn't drunk, wasn't hallucinting, would act normally.But a 19 year old guy that was drugged up, imagining all things possible, and thinking that he was next, might have gone into a mind-fall.I'm just speculating here.