All of the disappointments. How are loan to be paid back. I graduated from AUC back in 1998 and my experience was very different from the one described above. Support? Unfortunately, the truth is denied to you. I only read 1/4 of what you wrote. As an off-shore med student myself, I understand its important to look at schools as objectively as possible. Although Saba wasnt hit hard by the 2017 hurricanes compared to other islands in the path, the locals on the island took a hit in tourism and as a result have needed to increase the amount of money they make on students, so things have become progressively worse over the last few years. I will go that route now. Im having that issue now. Most schools will have a facebook group so if youre looking to get into one, join those groups and ask questions. I took care of my Filipino citizenship and taxes etc.. and when it came time I wanted to prove something to myself again I flew back to Philippines and worked my tail off getting a high score on the NMAT(MCAT equiv). This system is designed to produce and pick whoever has the highest numbers. There is no ugly truth, but hope and that is worth a great deal. But behind such ridiculous numbers lies some logical reasoning. Required fields are marked *. Columbia and affiliate IDs are required for entry. Being a doctor is not just having an MD, but knowing how to handle your own life; and how to heal from ups and downs so that you can be an inspiration of healing other people in pain. My brother graduated from SGU in 2011. great to hear your testimony. Comparison is one of those things that will always make it hard to deal with things that life throws at you. Barber is a program cordinator at the Interreligious Foundation for Community Organization, in Harlem, which recruits American students for E.L.A.M. Furthermore, there are times where the law enforcement and other emergency response agencies are incompetent, prejudice, or straight up corrupt. PLEASE ANYONE READING THIS POST SHARE IT. BUTthats just a cat and mouse game. Especially with stats like 8000 applicants for 120 seats.Thats a joke,when a great number of those seats go to minorities .A student that is 24 or 25 years old doesnt have the time to wait year after year to get in hopefully. I will use all i have learned and what i will learn and find my niche and my place in the system. What about all the heartaches that they cause every year to thousands of applicants. Unless a path is handed to you, its going to be a battlefield. your professor doesnt have to show up! (5) Students who cannot self study will fail? If youre considering a Caribbean school, you dont have a GPA that will get you into a proper American school. Money is one of those things; you make a good investment to go into medical school; dont kill yourself about debt. If you have poor study habits fix them or dont go to medical school at all. Some of that is being addressed at some levels, but not all. -SABA, this is a school that is alot smaller then the rest so I would like any information you can give me about the school, living condition, water, and why did you or would you pick this school over the others? Ultimately, you need to be the kind of person that could teach your self medicine from home, as if it were an online program. Nice store, but I would like to say that Nurses, PA, EMT, and ALL other healthcare providers definitely make changes in the world without a doubt. Any information will be truly appreciated. Cancel your social media profiles. YAY!. Much of what he wrote resonated with me, and while reading it, was thinking, yep, uh huh, saw that, experienced that. A 2017 thread on the valuemed.com website showed some particularly negative criticism of the school, specifically in terms of its quality of education. I know this because im not 20 obviously and I know how schools are accredited, so I also know when someone is stretching the truth a lot. From my research, students who wish to study medicine but do not get in, oftentimes apply to English-language programs in Poland, Hungary, or Romania to study medicine there (if they can afford it) and then get their degrees validated by the EU as MD-Romania for example. So it can be done, there WILL be hardships, difficulties, confusion, fear, and stress. To summarize, you need 3 things to make it in a caribbean medical school: 1) dedication and staying away from distractions 2) finding your learning style and resources 3) teaching yourself to stay disciplined. There are students in the US dropping out of medical school, same happens in the Caribbean. To everyone else, my story is a bit complicated but there is truth in all the stories people shared, the negatives and positives. NY, Canada, etc) you can receive more. You know how good you are and how much you are going to give it or gave it. But these are risk many motivated students like my self are willing to take in order to practice such a humble and noble profession. you were given the option to give it a second try, but you had to start all the way from semester one. 5) Students who can not self study and teach themselves the material fail. But compared to data surrounding similar Caribbean schools like St. Georges Medical School in Grenada (at 41%), this might be an incorrect assumption. Id love to pick your brain about Ross. Can I ask what Post-bacc program you did? My interpretation of Dr. Davids article is that he was making the point on the high attrition rate and questionable practices of for-profit medical schools. But it does only accept around 95 students per year! Been there and done/doing that! Career Highlights. If a student does fall below either mark students may or may not be allowed to decel, which means repeating the failed class; however, this looks bad on a residency app and if one fails again they are almost certainly dismissed (rare exceptions). As with anything, proceed with caution. Retake retake retake and reapply! (4) Yes, IMGs from anywhere have to score higher on Step to get the same residency. Thats what they used to doI recall getting an email asking me to write something positive on a forum for them about. I encourage you not to give up on your dreams but realize medical school is not your only option. We were about 5000 US/Canadian students alone. In all honesty, AUA is all about the money. anyone else sorry and naturally they have low attrition rates. Thank you Dr. Wible. I decided to apply to Caribbean Medical Schools. I dont know how to answer that. The study environment is best because all teachers are cooperative and professional. Is Saba a good medical school? Think about the Caribbean life, and residency, and being a physician. These schools are not for you. When you finally get out of your unfortunate didactic studies and get into rotations, maybe youll have some more respect for the other members of the healthcare world! I believe the wonderful weather and beaches around make our anxiety levels to go down. Although the Caribbean medical schools are not as good as the American ones, im thinking about studying medicine over there because I want to be a doctor so badly and ill Work really hard for it. Not having to complete an undergraduate degree to apply, certainly makes Saba open to more applicants. I wouldnt take that risk when you have hundreds of thousands of dollars at stake. Thinking of all those young people with 100-200K+ debt and no degree of any use is just tragic! Im a physiologist whos been teaching at US medical schools for 30 plus years. With 900 students how did we get down to 650? It makes more sense to go to PA school if you can even get in. I compared our academic schedule to too schools in California, and we have an average if 3 to 4 weeks less time to study, and our modules are way shorter than US schools. None of the facilities are amazing, but you actually can live with a hot plate and microwave without starving. They let in about 700 for the January starting class which are on different schedules and have a smaller lecture hall to accommodate a smaller class. I just came across this while doing research for what universities I should apply. Im from Nigeria and I am processing my admission with Caribbean medical university school of medicine (CMU). The conditions are not the problem, however students have no support. That decade saw the peak of US students abroad across the globe but mostly Mexico/Carib, although most were in Guadalajara. The rest, including Ross, are shit. From above posts the attrition rate is high but many get the chance they couldnt get in their home country. I believe US Medical education has been throttled by the US medical profession itself. Chances are, you will fail. Thank you for sharing your story. However, never did get my license because I was unable to sit Part II of the USMLE before I graduated, because I lacked one more core. But rest assured that they had been red flagged by the U.S department of education. There were no laundry services, no ovens, and a shared floor bathroom. Also was a straightforward 1 day exam ECFMG you needed to pass to be eligible for residency. Corporate medicine is here despite the thin legal vale to hide it. I have been a PA-C for 5.5 years and am starting MD term 1 this fall. But, if you really want to become a physician, you have to think about your priorities in life and decide if you want to spend another year trying to get accepted in the US or rather start sooner than later in a Caribbean school. Besides meeting the admissions criteria, its as good idea as any to make sure you follow the process as smoothly as you can. They told the school that using the students assigned work without their permission was against the law and that the schools accreditation mattered more that the money they could make from the questions written by their students. The numbers of NPs are increasing and so will our power be. An intern physician deep into a career change. Many of the classes are taught by professors that also conduct research in that area. The University of the West Indies provides high quality, fully accredited medical degrees that have been approved by the National Committee on Foreign Medical Education and Accreditation (NCFMEA) of the United States. So much money in US Defense, undergrad diploma mills, etc. Coming from 3rd world country, I will tell you that a Caribbean medical school is like heaven compared to what I went through in Nigeria. I am not surprised as this would benefit the bottom line. So, in these cases, you cant ever refer to your class notes or powerpoints to study to Step 1. Would you mind elaborating how the Caribbean Med School system follows that of Germany or Switzerland or the UK? Brings us to: 6. So long as profit is the main motive, it really doesnt matter where the medical school is located. Hes into football (soccer), learned Spanish after 5 years in Spain, and has had his work published all over the web. What did they promise on the way in? in Human Biology. Hi Dr. Wible, Everyone has different experiences about their transition at Caribbean medical schools. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I am 36, considering this as well. Having had THREE loved ones in Same Week: three different states have something basic simpleDEAD due to teams of no speakem englishem experimenting on US Citizenry nothing more need be stated. Im not arguing. Saba graduates have enjoyed great success in securing residencies. ME?!? This is obviously SGU lol for anybody who is not familiar with the Caribbean route. The school initially allowed it and let them move on throughout Med 1 med 4. My friends in Cali med schools couldnt believe how many modules they were packing into our terms. Theres a year of Internado and one of Social Service. I even did a short visiting lecture series at one of the best Caribbean medical schools. Youll always have to fight and be your own advocate but I cant complain because without them, I wouldnt be getting my degree next year! I spoke with a lot of graduates and they had a great time, busy but great. Everyone will ask you for the money. I can tell you there are no competency gaps between me and my peers. The school where I attended my Medical Technology School training closed in 1999 and I could not get a transcript. It is emotionally trying. Once you find your learning style and what resources work for you, things will only go upward. 40k-100k scholarship (discount) I assume SGU. The school requires certain people with questionable ability to first go through that course. The attrition is a very sad reality. My hubby is deliberating between AUA (global health track) and SGU. We would cool our heels for Out of the 53,371 applicants in 2019, just 21,869 matriculated into an allopathic medical school. But i think it doesnt mean at all universities are less worthy. Some of us who may attend Caribbean Medical Schools are doing so in fact because we did not have the luxury of parents putting us through undergrad and had to work for our degrees, along with supporting families and meeting family obligations and therefore our GPAs and MCAT scores are less than perfect. Find out more here. Please, as an international student, what advise can you give me on their scholarships and how I can support myself with the remaining balance through out my stay in the Caribbean medical schools as a poor student? Another major problem is not really getting admission even though student do everything perfect . If the student doesnt comply, the administrations threatens the student with dismissal, so the student has to lose about two thousand dollars to each landlord from which they move. Our school placed a random selection of students in a motel 5 miles from campus. Saba University School of Medicine was founded in 1992 as an international alternative to U.S. and Canadian medical schools. Register to our upcoming in-person events and webinars! Heres the story of one med-school drop-out who founded St. Georges Medical School in Grenada, Charles Modica. However, I will not mention its name because I have seen others in this comment section malign and accuse others of being paid or asked by the school to do this. ive been doing some research and would like to run it by you before i make my decision on which caribbean school to attend. (Sorry for typos, writing fast) God bless you! Many of the professors are well versed in their field and are passionate about education while others are woefully inadequate. My family did not move to Antigua with me because Antigua, unlike other Caribbean islands is not very welcoming to foreigners. If you cheated or something, theyd Please publish my letter if you feel it will help others. Thus these Schools must force these excessive students ( much like the over-booked flights) thru one means or the other resulting in a attrition rates as high as 40%. The content is essentially the same worldwide. I have tons of research and Clinical exp as well. They said that they would not take the risk of lowering their statistics by allowing me to sit for the exam. Generous merit-based scholarships available for eligible students, Small Class Sizes: Encouraging a uniquely close relationship between student and professor, with a student-to-faculty ratio of 7:1, Saba faculty have exceptional qualifications, with an advanced degree or doctorate. Hello, please can you email me, I have a few questions thanks. I know Im a bit late to the discussion here, but this article really helped me. Does anyone know about AUIC in Barbados? Its what you make it. hi please, im from Nigeria and would like to get in touch with you about caribbean medical schools. 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